HE SAID:...As an upstanding man I love a woman who has the mindset to handle her business - but it is hard to be a good man to a woman who constantly reminds you that she doesnt need you - I know there are a lot of men out there who arent handling their business but should others suffer from it?
SHE SAID:.. Would guys make up their minds... as women all we see on t.v. is guys proclaiming their love for I.N.D.E.P.E.N.D.E.N.T. women.. wait... THATS THE WORLDS VIEW.. as a woman of God I look upon this world and see so many lost young women and men.. Women who see a great majority of our men not handling their business they are too busy makin it rain in the strip clubs... havin babies and not takin care of them.. so a woman is forced to become independent for both themselves and their children...our country is in a difficult place little girls aren't being raised by a virtuous mom to understand that she is a gem and is to be treated that way. Little boys aren't being raised up by God fearing fathers who can teach them the importance of respect and love. Guiding them in how to raise a family and lead them, but also being led by God. No our boys are being raised by women and rap videos.. by twitter seeing our professional athletes tweetin about what strip club they are at. Our girls are seeing Nikki Minaj's and Beyonces acting like fools.. this is the reality we face. Its up to us as Christians and followers of Jesus to teach not only our children but others that being an Independant woman is not what God called us to be.. He called us as women to be helpers for our men.. to start in the home and making sure home is taken care of.. our babies need to know what time it is.. God didn't write WOMAN POWER... HEAR ME ROAR... he didn't intend for us to be that way. Women are walking around talking about there are no good men... but clearly... we as women are just making that GOOD MAN suffer for the pasts we have brought upon ourselves..
HE SAID... Exactly - "The worlds view" - As a man if I hype up the INDEPENDENT WOMAN then it sets it up just right because I can reap all the benefits of having a strong woman in my life with absolutely no commitment whatsoever - So while you women are bragging on your facebook Bios on how your an Independent woman you see that its nothing to brag about at all - Being in a loving relationship with a significant other has a lot more credibility than being a woman who pays for her own house and car but you cant get a man that loves you for more than a few hours out of the night - God didnt create Eve and tell her to survive on her own - Most women who claim to be die hard independent will definately end up independent - As an upright man who follows God I could never see myself with a woman who constantly attempts to take my role as head of the household and if you are such an Independent woman then accept the decision that YOU made as far as what man is in your life - YOU made the decision - So let him be that man - Otherwise alter what you are attracted to.
SHE SAID... BUT if you truly want that woman that actually understands her role as a woman in YOUR home which you are suppose to be leading as a man of God under Gods authority... are you READY for everything that comes with it. Are you ready to be the bread winner? Can you treat this woman as she should be treated? A crown to your head? You wouldn't take your crown off and throw it across the room would you? As a woman who has been both the independent woman and the Virtuous woman that God intended me to be I know that it is hard to find a man that truly grasps on to the whole submission/leading idea. While yes it is something a man wants is a woman to submit. Does he actually have the capability and desire to be the head of his house hold???? To lead is not so independent woman?!?!?!?!
HE SAID... Submissive Woman: A woman who knows that her husband or significant other is indeed a man of God and stands beside that man because she knows that he is a follower of God - But she has sense enough to know when her man is no longer on the right path and has a strong enough relationship with God to lean and depend on him.
A God Fearing Man: Is a man that leads his family according to Gods plan - He gets respect from the "submissive woman" (who is by far stronger than the Independent woman) because she knows and respects the fact that she is a man of God. As a man of God I could have not one red penny in my pocket BUT im still a bread winner. As a woman - when you are ready for love and that significant person in your life - Dont increase your time in clubs or bars so you can get more exposure - SEEK JESUS CHRIST - The bible says "When a man findeth a woman, he findeth a good thing" - Not the other way around. Let that God fearing man find you - and when he does its your decision whether you accept him - or listen to beyonce and boast your Independence
SHE SAID... I think I found my man of God LOL but on a real note... Being a submissive woman is a choice it's also an HONOR.. given to us by GOD .. Today the independent woman thinks being submissive is weak but in TRUTH submission is the best place you can be.. When you are under the authority of what God wills you are in the most powerful position you could ever have. My heavenly Father told me I'm above a diamond's worth and a gem doesn't seek … a gem is sought and cherished. As a woman, I know it's not my role to chase after or change a man. Esther 2:1-4 states that I am to wait on my King... if a man thinks you should chase him he's not the man for you. Ladies it is not up to you to change your man so if your man of God isn't doing what he's suppose to do... you need to go to God in prayer not nag that man he's more likely to listen to God then ur whinning :)
HE SAID... Now thats a statement I can agree with - I want to be able to confide in my wife to correct me when I am wrong or out of line with God - Thats why I will never say for the woman to follow but its a teamwork where the man is only in control "THROUGH CHRIST" and once he steps out of the grace of God he puts his family as a whole in danger because they are going off of his lead - being a submissive woman actually gives you empowerment and thats the fact that a lot of women are missing today. I want to see more women stepping up and learning to be that submissive woman BUT IT CANT HAPPEN UNLESS WE AS MEN STEP UP AND BECOME FOLLOWERS OF GOD AND GIVE THESE WOMEN REASON TO BE SUBMISIVE
SHE SAID... if a woman cant pray with or for her man what good is she? Seriously if you cant pray for me or with me we have nothing. A succesful relationship is based wholy on GOD and nothing more.. the bible clearly states that a woman is to submit to her husband. A lot of women even proclaimed "virtuous" women cringe at that word. SUBMIT?? ME?? NEVER... and walking around with that attitude is what is the first downfall of a woman. That's why eve did what she did she wasn't fully submitted to God she didn't trust him enough to let him know what was best for her. Yes a man has to find his place as well.. submission is an honor as I've already said.. it is a job given to women from God.. A lot of women are also feeling a lack of satisfaction with just being a mom and wife, but if you read a proverbs 31 woman is more she's virtuous shes actually SUCCESSFUL more successful then a independent woman because she has gained so much honor and integrity.. something an independent woman usually lacks because she is constantly seeking a man that isn't going to fit her mold she has created and if she finds one she's going to be too busy being independent and making sure she keeps her independence that it's going to push him away.. again leaving her ALONE... LADIES your good man is not in the club or slangin dope.. making his next rap video or anything else... stop looking and seeking... allow God to bring that man to you when you're all the way invested into God all you're going to get is his best... so work on being your best..
Awesome conversation! Each side, male and female, have to each properly play their roles for a relationship to work as God intended. And if a man can't lead, then the woman is showing her own immaturity for getting with him in the first place. A man should show signs of purpose, production, leadership etc, before a woman gets romantically involved anyway. And I see nothing wrong with an independent woman because if she's single, she should be doing stuff all on her own. But when you get in relationship, you cannot still try to act like you're single. Anyway, great convo! Love it!
ReplyDeleteGreat Job Sis!!!! I love it I am still putting mine together(didn't realize it would be so tedious) I look forward to reading more!!
ReplyDeleteI love this Tia, you all did a great job on this article.
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Great Topic! :)
ReplyDeleteI am a single, almost 23yr old God-fearing woman (Really actually living a Saved life so you will not find me in any Club trying to impress a man). So at this point I have no choice but be Independent so I work and go to school. I not "looking" for a man, I'm waiting on God to send him my way.....here's the dilemma: I don't go around waving an "I'm INDEPENDENT" flag but I think men look at me as too independent? When I meet a guy my age, I have more assets than they do (ex: my own place& car) and I don't think they like that....and neither do I ;(
Men like the fact that you have those assets - That shows that you are a driven woman who is simply doing what she has to do and that is something that is respected. At the same time men do want to have the pleasure of knowing that he is needed in some shape form or fashion or it feels as if we have no purpose to you - If you are searching for God - A man will notice - and a man of God isnt worried about your assets and what you have materially - Our worry is the position of your mind and spirit.
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ReplyDeleteinteresting viewpoints...the world's view of being an independent women is foolery. As adults we're supposed to have our own home, cars, jobs, etc. Independence is not a status. Its a mind set. Single women are supposed to be seeking to please God, she cares about the things of the Lord. Owning your own business and being successful is not an indicator that you don't need a man. Its an indicator that you are blessed. Any saved woman knows that even though she is successful, her husband is her covering. Ofcourse she needs a man, she's the "weaker" vessel. Also being in a relationship with a significant other holds "no credibility" being married however does. I am confused as to why you all use husband and significant other as if they are interchangeable. No woman, esp saved, should be submissive to a boy friend (i.e. significant other) the only man she should submit to is her husband and until he comes God.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the response! ;) it was helpful
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